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Ahmed999888
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$437 is too much !!!...isn't there a discount or something ?
We all know it's complete nonsense and that the laughably named 'Sacred Science' website is a home for shameless, money grubbing scoundrels, none of whom have any public record of making a profit from trading and whose sole existence is to tout convoluted, esoteric gibberish that is based on the work of a man whose own son openly admitted he never made a dime trading (I'm talking about Gann, in case the slow kids aren't catching on)......... but all that truth aside, if you increase the participants amount to 100 and the contribution to $70 then I'd commit, just so that I can have the collection. It's nice knowing that thousands and thousands of dollars worth of crap is sitting on my computer for almost free.
Ahmed999888
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@GOODMEN did you purchase it from a reseller ? Or the official cosmoeconomics website ? Because the 2023 law of vibration by the numbers book is 900 pages and only available through the official website...and if from a reseller it is probably the 2017 version with 700 pages...so, which one is it ?
Ahmed999888
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I've got loads of the older ones, such as Baumring's course (which basically just consists of photocopies of pages from other people's books) and Nirenstein's notes on the same course. I've got several of Ferrera's junk and Goulden's, as well as works by Gann, Bayer, Sepharial, Meridian, Cowan, Jenkins, etc. Been collecting this stuff for around 25 years, so you know that I'm an old fart!
I don't know what the policy is here for uploading stuff for free, but you're welcome to have it if you wish. I would never dream of charging people for sci-fi/fantasy PDFs.
Ahmed999888
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All that mentioned i have...which ones of Goulden you have ? I have only "behind the veil"I've got loads of the older ones, such as Baumring's course (which basically just consists of photocopies of pages from other people's books) and Nirenstein's notes on the same course. I've got several of Ferrera's junk and Goulden's, as well as works by Gann, Bayer, Sepharial, Meridian, Cowan, Jenkins, etc. Been collecting this stuff for around 25 years, so you know that I'm an old fart!
I don't know what the policy is here for uploading stuff for free, but you're welcome to have it if you wish. I would never dream of charging people for sci-fi/fantasy PDFs.
I definitely have 'Behind The Veil' and may have 'Secrets of the Chronocrators' as well. Almost all of the books I've got are on DVDs, so I'll need to check again about that and get back to you.
Ahmed999888
Member
Ok...thanks...one more question...and it is the most important...were you able to solve Gann's mystery ?
I'm interested in the baumring stuff and Nirenstein's notes. "Ferrara's junk" is very fitting. I remember finding his "Spirals of growth and decay" book. Garbage. He reinvented elliott wave and potentially made it even worse? They were selling it for 10,000 dollars and limited it to 50-100 copies at the time i believeI've got loads of the older ones, such as Baumring's course (which basically just consists of photocopies of pages from other people's books) and Nirenstein's notes on the same course. I've got several of Ferrera's junk and Goulden's, as well as works by Gann, Bayer, Sepharial, Meridian, Cowan, Jenkins, etc. Been collecting this stuff for around 25 years, so you know that I'm an old fart!
I don't know what the policy is here for uploading stuff for free, but you're welcome to have it if you wish. I would never dream of charging people for sci-fi/fantasy PDFs.
Ahmed999888
Member
Yeah...i remember trying his "new Elliott wave" and saying that his students were able to solve the market...and i have tried his method on chart and it didn't work...i don't know what he was talking about !!!I'm interested in the baumring stuff and Nirenstein's notes. "Ferrara's junk" is very fitting. I remember finding his "Spirals of growth and decay" book. Garbage. He reinvented elliott wave and potentially made it even worse? They were selling it for 10,000 dollars and limited it to 50-100 copies at the time i believe
DonSpaghett
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Have you guys come across this channel (https://www.youtube.com/@Ganntime) and the 'private mentorship' he's paddling?
Would love to hear what the fellow Gann enthusiasts think of it, or able to figure out it's groupbuy-able or worth it or not.
Would love to hear what the fellow Gann enthusiasts think of it, or able to figure out it's groupbuy-able or worth it or not.
MarketMonk
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Never heard of him.
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goldentrader
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He seems legit, probably the same person of the Trader Syndicate
goldentrader
New member
Can I please get the Chronocrators book?I'm interested in the baumring stuff and Nirenstein's notes. "Ferrara's junk" is very fitting. I remember finding his "Spirals of growth and decay" book. Garbage. He reinvented elliott wave and potentially made it even worse? They were selling it for 10,000 dollars and limited it to 50-100 copies at the time i believe
DonSpaghett
New member
That was my exact impression when I first saw the channel and its vids.
If they are indeed the same, then there's no point. I've seen Trader Syndicate's course in some reselling websites.
I'm looking at his website and i think he may have taken trader syndicate's course, realized it was incomplete, then figured it out himself after some time. His course might be more useful so im interested in that too
goldentrader
New member
It might worth trying, content could be different.. even trader syndicate have one other course that is not leaked yet.. I've decoded the content myself but there can be always other ways to progress
It's been a couple of days since I've been here and see there are some messages. Rather than reply individually and have several posts in a row, I'll quote everybody in this comment and answer each after the hyphens.
Ahmed999888, you asked: "Ok...thanks...one more question...and it is the most important...were you able to solve Gann's mystery ?" -
I haven't been able to solve anything to do with Gann and as I stated in my first message on this thread, I am highly sceptical that there actually IS a mystery to be solved.
I came into trading to make money, not to get lured into occult, Indiana Jones type rabbit holes. When I started out, like everyone else, I had no knowledge and so the natural thing to do was to look around and try to acquire that knowledge from others who claim to have everything figured out. The first thing I noticed was that there are a multitude of so called experts out there who profess that they have such understanding. The second thing I noticed was that they were all willing to SELL those 'secrets' for exorbitant sums. I wanted to MAKE money, not PART with it... especially as I had no way of knowing the truth or falsehood of the claims being made in advance.
As would-be traders we should consider that every decision in life is A TRADE. Do I go left or right? Do I marry this girl or not? Do I fart at the funeral or not? Do I spend thousands of (in my case) pounds on a book? Ignorant as I was of the business, I still knew that this was too risky and if there were other ways around it then I go those routes instead. At that time torrents and peer-to-peer applications like Limewire were coming into vogue, so I amassed a lot of PDFs, videos, software, etc, that way. I always said that if any of it was of use to me then I'd honestly reimburse the creators legitimately. The horrible realisation that I came away with was that 99% of it was worthless.
Eventually (around 2005) I got in with a group of economic news traders and was able to make a good deal of cash trading news spikes for a few seconds at a time using specialised FIX API software connected to Bloomberg, Reuters, Selerity and several other high end digital news providers. This served me well until 2020, when the world went nuts. Thankfully, I've made enough money now that I really don't have to worry anymore. I'm certainly not **rich**, but I am affluent enough to just 'play' these days. So essentially I've come full circle and that's why I'm here.
I have friends that are die hard Gann fans, but none of them have made a penny and as much as I hate to say it, I don't think they ever will. While I don't pretend to be all knowing and would love for someone to definitively prove otherwise, I really feel that there is no value in pursuing Gann as a course of study if your goal is to seriously make money trading. You can argue and shout me down if you wish (and you may be right!), but when all is said and done ask yourself honestly if you feel in any way better as a trader from having read all this stuff? If the answer is yes then great; I applaud you and will humbly tell you to continue on your own path. But if you've spent considerable time already trying to decipher geometric angles and squaring charts and astrological configurations and coded language and musical notation and mathematical growth spirals and numerology and Biblical verses and masonic symbolism and radio wave frequencies and the structure of pyramids and grey aliens penchant for messing with cows... and STILL not made any effing money, then my advice would be to stop in your tracks right now and re-evaluate what you're doing.
The bottom line is this: The market goes up and the market goes down. It does both, just not at the same time. Do you really need to spend your life trying to figure out something incredibly complex and which may not actually be real or do you want to focus on simpler, more practical and down to earth methods of making money? The choice is yours.
Trueone, you asked for the Baumring and Nirenstein stuff. No problem. I'll upload it later. I still don't know what the policy is here for pasting download links openly into the forum, so I'll wait a day to see if any of the Admin team say no. If they don't have a problem with it then I'll have it for you by tomorrow. Watch this space!
Goldentrader, you asked: "Can I please get the Chronocrators book?" - I'll need to check to see that I actually do have it. If so then see the previous paragraph to Trueone.
Lastly, regarding DonSpaghett's YouTube person, I've never seen this one before. But that's my point... there's always a new guru popping up every five minutes who purports to have access to the 'secret knowledge' and for the relatively small sum of $$$$$, you TOO can share that secret. LOL They're all cockroaches and the reason I collect their courses for zero or close to zero money is simply to screw them over. Other folk collect stamps or baseball cards, I collect worthless Gann trash.
Ahmed999888, you asked: "Ok...thanks...one more question...and it is the most important...were you able to solve Gann's mystery ?" -
I haven't been able to solve anything to do with Gann and as I stated in my first message on this thread, I am highly sceptical that there actually IS a mystery to be solved.
I came into trading to make money, not to get lured into occult, Indiana Jones type rabbit holes. When I started out, like everyone else, I had no knowledge and so the natural thing to do was to look around and try to acquire that knowledge from others who claim to have everything figured out. The first thing I noticed was that there are a multitude of so called experts out there who profess that they have such understanding. The second thing I noticed was that they were all willing to SELL those 'secrets' for exorbitant sums. I wanted to MAKE money, not PART with it... especially as I had no way of knowing the truth or falsehood of the claims being made in advance.
As would-be traders we should consider that every decision in life is A TRADE. Do I go left or right? Do I marry this girl or not? Do I fart at the funeral or not? Do I spend thousands of (in my case) pounds on a book? Ignorant as I was of the business, I still knew that this was too risky and if there were other ways around it then I go those routes instead. At that time torrents and peer-to-peer applications like Limewire were coming into vogue, so I amassed a lot of PDFs, videos, software, etc, that way. I always said that if any of it was of use to me then I'd honestly reimburse the creators legitimately. The horrible realisation that I came away with was that 99% of it was worthless.
Eventually (around 2005) I got in with a group of economic news traders and was able to make a good deal of cash trading news spikes for a few seconds at a time using specialised FIX API software connected to Bloomberg, Reuters, Selerity and several other high end digital news providers. This served me well until 2020, when the world went nuts. Thankfully, I've made enough money now that I really don't have to worry anymore. I'm certainly not **rich**, but I am affluent enough to just 'play' these days. So essentially I've come full circle and that's why I'm here.
I have friends that are die hard Gann fans, but none of them have made a penny and as much as I hate to say it, I don't think they ever will. While I don't pretend to be all knowing and would love for someone to definitively prove otherwise, I really feel that there is no value in pursuing Gann as a course of study if your goal is to seriously make money trading. You can argue and shout me down if you wish (and you may be right!), but when all is said and done ask yourself honestly if you feel in any way better as a trader from having read all this stuff? If the answer is yes then great; I applaud you and will humbly tell you to continue on your own path. But if you've spent considerable time already trying to decipher geometric angles and squaring charts and astrological configurations and coded language and musical notation and mathematical growth spirals and numerology and Biblical verses and masonic symbolism and radio wave frequencies and the structure of pyramids and grey aliens penchant for messing with cows... and STILL not made any effing money, then my advice would be to stop in your tracks right now and re-evaluate what you're doing.
The bottom line is this: The market goes up and the market goes down. It does both, just not at the same time. Do you really need to spend your life trying to figure out something incredibly complex and which may not actually be real or do you want to focus on simpler, more practical and down to earth methods of making money? The choice is yours.
Trueone, you asked for the Baumring and Nirenstein stuff. No problem. I'll upload it later. I still don't know what the policy is here for pasting download links openly into the forum, so I'll wait a day to see if any of the Admin team say no. If they don't have a problem with it then I'll have it for you by tomorrow. Watch this space!
Goldentrader, you asked: "Can I please get the Chronocrators book?" - I'll need to check to see that I actually do have it. If so then see the previous paragraph to Trueone.
Lastly, regarding DonSpaghett's YouTube person, I've never seen this one before. But that's my point... there's always a new guru popping up every five minutes who purports to have access to the 'secret knowledge' and for the relatively small sum of $$$$$, you TOO can share that secret. LOL They're all cockroaches and the reason I collect their courses for zero or close to zero money is simply to screw them over. Other folk collect stamps or baseball cards, I collect worthless Gann trash.
